The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
>
> I have felt draining in the past, the key is to
> employ strategies to make these foods easier to
> digest (open up the food matrix more efficiently).
> Fermented foods over the long term helps, eating
> various sprouts with kelp helps, sprouting in the
> dark helps etc. Yes, vegetables are certainly not
> ideal foods for various reasons...l personally
> avoid them.
>
> I can't get around the fruit issue...can't be
> solved.

"Draining" is definitely an apt description of how I feel if I eat greens - and even sprouts - everyday. Fermented foods and a daily probiotic do appear to help, but don't come anywhere near to eliminating the greens problem for ME.

Can you clarify your last statement please? ("I can't get around the fruit issue...can't be
> solved." )

I'm assuming here that you're referring to the issue you (and some others) have with fruit. Am I correct? If so, I feel compassion for your issue. I have no idea how I would personally survive if the same issue applied to me. I'd be totally lost, in fact.



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The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> suncloud Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > There's another condition called "fructose
> > malabsorption". According to the following
> > article on both conditions, "Fructose
> > malabsorption is thought to affect
> approximately
> > 40 percent of individuals in the Western
> > hemisphere; its cause is unknown."
> >
> >
> [ghr.nlm.nih.gov]
>

> Aha, very very interesting. I shallsave this link
> in my `fruit is bad' files and investigate
> further.

I think one of the key phrases from the study is "in the Western hemisphere". I would interpret this to refer to the standard western diet.

Meaning that people's adverse effects from fruit in the "Western hemisphere" could be associated with the other foods they are eating.

What's with Clements and the suits? Looks entirely unnatural. Suits are like miltary uniformsat best. What's the attraction TSM?

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I like Clement's new upgraded suit,
> > though, that should convince another level of
> > demographics of his legitimacy, shouldn't it?
>
>
> I like Brian's new style suit too, none-the-less,
> the sleeve pitch is all off and the collar is
> poorly cut and he is still has that dreaded fusing
> in the lapels and bottom part of the suit. The
> material looks nice however as is indicated in the
> draping which is way superior to manmade fibers.
> Would have preferred a single vent instead of a
> double in this case because a double goes better
> with a peak lapel and a single goes better with a
> notched lapel IMO.

Well, yeah, he always has major troubles with fit, etc., but you're talking about suiting up for a demographic beyond what his marks need as proofs of legitimacy. Maybe he'll step it up to that level if he needs something really snazzy and that means business - like for a court date or something.

> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > The point is, there are no negative effects
> from
> > the sprouts. They produce a clear mind,enhance
> > good brain functioning and give good
> sustainable
> > energy.

do you only drink sprouts or do you eat them also?

what % eaten/ chewed and what % liquid/drink?


On the other hand, fruit clouds the
> mind,
> > reduces brain function and gives very poor
> energy.

contradicted by your watermelon "fast"

"Fruits, not suits!"

Or someone else might prefer:

Suits, not fruits!

Either way, "evil" or "bad" is something else entirely.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Maybe he'll step it up to that
> level if he needs something really snazzy and that
> means business - like for a court date or
> something.

SueZ, I can't help it! You're always making me laugh! Lol!

fresh Wrote:
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> > The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > The point is, there are no negative effects
> > from
> > > the sprouts. They produce a clear mind,enhance
>
> > > good brain functioning and give good
> > sustainable
> > > energy.
>
> do you only drink sprouts or do you eat them
> also?


I mainly drink the sprouts.
>
> what % eaten/ chewed and what % liquid/drink?
>
>
> On the other hand, fruit clouds the
> > mind,
> > > reduces brain function and gives very poor
> > energy.
>
> contradicted by your watermelon "fast"

No, l have vastly increased awareness since enlightenment, and l never had enlightenment in those days. Eventhough l felt great and almost had a photographic memory back then, and free flow of thoughts (well, so l thought at the time), l possibly wasn't aware of the negative effects from the dark side of fruit. When you increase awareness to much higher levels you can read the effects of the various foods very very well...they all feel different.

I shall get back to the other comments tomorrow or possibly later today.



SueZ Wrote:
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> Maybe he'll step it up to that
> level if he needs something really snazzy and that
> means business - like for a court date or
> something.

Or maybe an orange jump suit. No no...only joking, don't take my comments as trying to be harsh. Raw fooders need to keep away from that scene because lifestyles don't mix. But just imagine raw vegans going to prison and being forced to eat meat and 100% cooked food. I know a raw fooder that is very likely going to prison, no wonder he is hiding out. Home arrest is more in line for non violent non theiving raw vegans.

>I mainly drink the sprouts.

the reason i asked is that you said you digested sprouts well and were wondering why you supposedly didn't digest fruit well.

but you're drinking the sprouts, so of course you are going to digest them well. they are liquid.



>
> what % eaten/ chewed and what % liquid/drink?
>
>
> On the other hand, fruit clouds the
> > mind,
> > > reduces brain function and gives very poor
> > energy.
>
> contradicted by your watermelon "fast"

>>No, l have vastly increased awareness since enlightenment, and l never had enlightenment in those days. Eventhough l felt great and almost had a photographic memory back then, and free flow of thoughts (well, so l thought at the time), l possibly wasn't aware of the negative effects from the dark side of fruit. When you increase awareness to much higher levels you can read the effects of the various foods very very well...they all feel different.

well that was a convoluted rationalization. but ok.

NuNativs Wrote:
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> What's with Clements and the suits? Looks entirely
> unnatural. Suits are like miltary uniformsat best.
> What's the attraction TSM?

That is a very outdated view to hold, and dare l say, rather childish ideals held by the baby boomer generation of men who chose casual work wear as a way to rebel against tasteful mens wear. The suit is classic mens wear at it's very best, none-the-less, Brian Clement would look much better if he was able to make colours work togeather instead of gray on gray and that hideous black suit with heavily contracting bright blue pocket hanky.

He tried to style it up but failed miserably here...the blue hanky is overpowered by the black suit and he looks like dracula, and it is amplified because he is wearing it during the daytime which makes it extra suspect. The shape of the suit, the 3 button coat and the built up square shoulders also does Brian no favours. Not very professional.
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Another black suit disaster:
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Brian does much better in grays and navy blues and two button coats.

I nearly started up a styling consultancy company many years ago to dress both men and women, but fortunately l came to my senses and went away from that superficial materialstic snobby world. I guess the artistic element still runs within me in many aspects of my life, hence my comments. My message is to not run away from these things, use what's available to you and present a profesional image because many people do judge by appearance, so best to tip things in our favour and conduct a professional image if one is in a leadership role. If Brian wore a t-shirt and shorts (under garments) someone might mistake him for beach hand and might direct him to the beach instead of taking him to the interview room to conduct a serious interveiw. Raw food leaders do themselves no favour by sloppy casual, it projects amateurism regardless of the knowledge they may possess,and many in this judgemental world will write them off as lightweights before they get the chance to prove themselves. Unfortunately that is the world we live in, so we must help ourselves and look the part when in a leadership role.


Back to raw foods and fruit again...

www.thesproutarian.com



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jtprindl wrote:

<<<Perhaps it is not that "most of you guys don't see what she is doing" but rather that you are just highly paranoid…>>>

<<<Perhaps you're drawing your own picture and connecting your own dots thinking you figured out something significant.>>>

Hey jtprindl,

You ought to get a kick out of this…

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Wake up America! - Dr. John Coleman (Illuminati, Committee of 300)
1:43:29 Minute Video

JR’s Notes:

5:02 MM
Now I’m Paranoid. I’m going to admit to you right up front. But let me tell you what the real meaning of the word Paranoid is - it is a man or a person who has the ability to link events that seemingly are not connected - that is the true meaning of Paranoia or being Paranoid. 5:28 MM
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1/10 The Committee of 300 Conspirators' Hierarchy: Dr. John Coleman
10:59 Minute Video

JR’s Notes:

2:14 MM
Now I’m Paranoid. I’m going to admit to you right up front. But let me tell you what the real meaning of the word Paranoid is - it is a man or a person who has the ability to link events that seemingly are not connected - that is the true meaning of Paranoia or being Paranoid. 2:40 MM
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Have you ever heard of Dr. John Coleman?

"Now I’m Paranoid. I’m going to admit to you right up front. But let me tell you what the real meaning of the word Paranoid is - it is a man or a person who has the ability to link events that seemingly are not connected - that is the true meaning of Paranoia or being Paranoid."

That's actually not the true meaning of being paranoid, at all.

paranoia - a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system.

suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification

paranoid - unreasonably or obsessively anxious, suspicious, or mistrustful

"Have you ever heard of Dr. John Coleman?"

No but I'll check out the videos.



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TSM wrote:
" If Brian wore a t-shirt and shorts (under garments)" No really I'd prefer to see him au natural, the suits convey to me that he's clearly hiding something behind his biblical preacher demeanor and aggressive "i know it all stance"...

Hey jtprindl,

Just out of curiosity, do you understand the difference between Convergent Thinking and Divergent Thinking and if so, how would you describe the way you think?

Once you understand what type of thinker you are, you might understand why it's so hard for you to Connect the Dots!

jtprindl Wrote:
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> A couple things...
>
> -John is in fact insulting SueZ by calling her an
> internet shill. He does not have any credible
> evidence to substantiate this claim and therefore
> it is just an unfounded opinion. Perhaps it is not
> that "most of you guys don't see what she is
> doing" but rather that you are just highly
> paranoid and/or have a personal bias against her.
>
> -John's "Hitler Hypothesis" doesn't add up and a
> Herbert Shelton quote is far from proof. We're
> seeing a rapid and radical growth in many things
> that lead to enhanced health and cognition amongst
> the masses, including organic food, natural cures
> over big pharma drugs, vaccine opposition,
> awareness of government corruption, etc. This is
> bad news for many evil corporations that profit
> from the suffering of humanity because it makes
> people healthier and more awakened and greatly
> diminishes their profits.

Thank you for noticing.

The paranoia runs deep in many of these old guys holed up alone in their bunkers for decades. I've seen my share of them in real life and it's anything but pretty. Take care, when they offer their suggested reading lists, that you don't become but one other of these paranoids seeing bogymen everywhere. They enjoy sharing their paranoia with younger generations to gain future isolated bunker buddys for company in their coo coo networks. According to Coleman even the Beatles were part of the conspiracy to bring young people to ruin. I'm not kidding - that's how out there it gets.



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Overactive adrenal glands usually produce too much cortisol and possibly other adrenal hormones (i.e. epinephrine, aldosterone). Since cortisol plays a role in elevating blood sugar, this is often accompanied by an increased blood sugar level. Over time, this might end up leading to conditions like insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome.

Underactive adrenal glands, on the other hand, produce inadequate amounts of hormones, especially cortisol, to maintain homeostasis in the body. A common clinical problem with underactive adrenal glands is hypoglycemic symptoms due to fluctuations in blood sugar. Normal, healthy bodies release cortisol to help liberate glucose to maintain the functions of our brain, organs and cells when blood sugar levels decline between meals, or overnight during sleep. When cortisol is unavailable, glucose levels get too low. The adrenal glands release epinephrine (aka adrenaline) as their back-up plan. This causes the lightheadedness, shakiness and irritability that people with low blood sugar experience, and is why people with low blood sugar commonly wake up during the night.


Testing adrenal gland function
TRY THIS AT HOME!
Here’s one relatively easy test to do if you have a blood pressure monitor. It’s called the orthostatic hypotension test. After lying down for approximately 5 minutes, take your blood pressure and make note of the systolic pressure (the top number). Then stand up and take your blood pressure again.
If your systolic pressure remained the same or if it decreased, there is a chance you do not have optimal adrenal medulla function, or epinephrine secretion. When we stand, epinephrine is normally secreted to increase our blood pressure to help prevent gravity from pulling blood away from our brain. If your blood pressure drops, it might mean that epinephrine isn’t there to do its job.
SYSTOLIC CHANGE POSSIBLE FINDING
Increases 6-10 mm/Hg Healthy adrenal function
Does not change Fair adrenal function
Drops 1-10 mm/Hg Poor adrenal function
Drops more than 10 mm/Hg Adrenal exhaustion

Another at-home test you can do is called the paradoxical pupillary reflex. Standing in front of a mirror in a dark room, take a flashlight and shine the light into one eye at a 45 degree angle from the side. Watch your pupil.
When in the dark, your pupil should be dilated (open). When you shine the light it should constrict. The duration of constriction can indicate adrenal function, though there are other causes for a positive finding on this test. Wait 30 seconds in the dark before repeating with the other eye. (If you get bored while waiting, chew some wintergreen Lifesavers.)
PUPIL CONSTRICTION POSSIBLE FINDING
Stays constricted for at least 20 seconds Healthy adrenal function
Fasciculates (pulses) after 10 seconds Fair adrenal function
Fasciculates (pulses) in 5-10 seconds Poor adrenal function
Immediate pulsation and dilation Adrenal exhaustion

NuNativs Wrote:
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> TSM wrote:
> " If Brian wore a t-shirt and shorts (under
> garments)" No really I'd prefer to see him au
> natural, the suits convey to me that he's clearly
> hiding something behind his biblical preacher
> demeanor and aggressive "i know it all stance"...


Have to disagree. Would you go to a bank manager, accountant or lawyer that was dressed in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops? Would you send you kids to a school when the principle was dressed like that? These clothes serve nothing but a distraction in jobs of leadership. It is important to project an image of stability, and Brian Clement does exactly that. But when you project that reliable image you need to be able to live up to that image.

www.thesproutarian.com



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jtprindl wrote:

<<<That's actually not the true meaning of being paranoid, at all.

paranoia - a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system.

suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification

paranoid - unreasonably or obsessively anxious, suspicious, or mistrustful>>>

Hey jtprindl,

WOW, you really are a Convergent Thinker because you didn't even see the CONNECTION between your 2 comments and the comment by Coleman, which is the ONLY reason why I brought it up.

Let's take a look at it again and see if you can see the CONNECTION.

jtprindl wrote:

<<<Perhaps it is not that "most of you guys don't see what she is doing" but rather that you are just highly paranoid…>>>

<<<Perhaps you're drawing your own picture and connecting your own dots thinking you figured out something significant.>>>

John Coleman said:

"Now I’m Paranoid. I’m going to admit to you right up front. But let me tell you what the real meaning of the word Paranoid is - it is a man or a person who has the ability to link events that seemingly are not connected - that is the true meaning of Paranoia or being Paranoid."

If you still cannot see the CONNECTION, that's because you filter your thoughts through a Concave Lens and I filter my thoughts through a Convex Lens, which partially explains why I see CONNECTIONS that you do NOT.

The fact that you cannot see CONNECTIONS that I see does NOT mean that the CONNECTIONS do NOT exist nor does it mean that I am in any way paranoid.

Once again, this is the ONLY reason why I brought the Coleman quote up as to show you how I see CONNECTIONS - CONNECTIONS which you apparently do NOT see.

Interestingly, James Nolan said that most conflict in life comes from these types of Personality Polarities and until you come to understand the difference, you will always struggle with people with Divergent Personalities.

So it behooves you to learn more about this, unless you like conflict in your life. Along those lines, I highly recommend that you take Nolan's Personality Test called Personalysis. It's based on Quantum Physics and from what I've seen it's the best test on the market.

John Rose Wrote:
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> Hey jtprindl,
>
> Just out of curiosity, do you understand the
> difference between Convergent Thinking and
> Divergent Thinking and if so, how would you
> describe the way you think?
>
> Once you understand what type of thinker you are,
> you might understand why it's so hard for you to
> Connect the Dots!


Yes I do and I'm a divergent thinker. Your approach towards SueZ is convergent thinking.

Maybe there are no dots to connect when it comes to raw food and Hitler rather than everybody besides you not being able to connect them. You never answered my question in regards to this quote "but the desire of those who profit from the present evil practices and the means of carrying them on, to continue to reap rich financial harvests from pandering to the many harmful practices of the present conventional way of life". What evil practices?

"<<<Perhaps it is not that "most of you guys don't see what she is doing" but rather that you are just highly paranoid…>>>

<<<Perhaps you're drawing your own picture and connecting your own dots thinking you figured out something significant.>>>"

You perceived my comments in the wrong way, maybe I should've been more clear. By "connecting your own dots" I meant making unverifiable claims based on nothing but your opinion and assuming they are accurate.



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jtprindl wrote:

<<<Yes I do and I'm a divergent thinker. Your approach towards SueZ is convergent thinking.>>>

NO, you are NOT a Divergent Thinker, otherwise, you would be able to Connect the Dots and you would know that I am NOT a Convergent Thinker.

I already knew you were a Convergent Thinker ever since you started posting. I know because I am a Divergent Thinker and you are my Polar Opposite.

How do I know that I’m a Divergent Thinker and you are a Convergent Thinker?

Read this Post and find out.

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If the Doors of Perception were Cleansed...
Posted by: John Rose
Date: September 17, 2012 03:18PM

It looks like a good time to post an old post of mine. I do not have time right now to give examples for some of the different Personalities here, but there is one thing I would like to say and that is that whatever you say about someone else tells others more about you than the person you're describing.

Warning - this is another long post!

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If the doors of perception were cleansed...
John Rose (---.152.252.98.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net)
Date: 10-01-02 15:19

The purpose of this post is to help eliminate and resolve some of the conflict that we have on this BB, as well as in our own personal lives. From my analysis, I have come up with 3 major sources of conflict, which I would like to share with everyone.

Sources of Conflict:

1) 93% of All Communication Is Nonverbal
2) Less Than Perfect Comprehensive and Memory Skills
3) Different Personalities Have Different Rules

1) 93% of All Communication Is Nonverbal

One of the biggest problems that we have when we try to communicate on the internet is that only seven percent of all communications are verbal, which means that ninety three percent are nonverbal. This makes me think that maybe Kahlil Gibran was on to something we he said that, "We shall never understand one another until we reduce the language to seven words."

Here is what a few other people have said about this subject:

"But, how does one detect ones detractor's emotions via their written word? Of course, one does not; we infer other people's emotions, sometimes erroneously, ourselves." John Coleman

"I just want all of us to remember that without the inflections, visual cues, and full context of in person conversation, most of what we post is difficult to fully grasp. You too have often been misunderstood on this and other boards. Let's just rememeber that you (Jeff N), me, Alan and many other of the long time posters here are all on the same team." Dr. Doug Graham

"Unfortunately, the internet, email, and message boards are a very difficult medium to hold discussions. Much of the "exchange" that happens between people in person, and even on the phone is lost. As we all know, the possibility of miscommunication between people even when in person, is great. It is only that much more greater on these new hi tech mediums. That is why we have to be much more careful about how we interpret things, and what is meant/intended in these posts and be more careful before we take things personally and to true to better ascertain intent/meaning." Jeff N

"When I read different posts, I remind myself that written words cannot express a person’s body language. You can’t see the other person’s intention, or them leaning forward reaching out, or their smile. Filter people’s posts through a love filter before you let it affect you personally." Frama

2) Less Than Perfect Comprehensive and Memory Skills

Another problem that I have noticed is that very few people are 100% accurate at comprehending and memorizing what is said. Unfortunately, there's no way that I know of to make people work harder at improving their skills in this area. The only suggestion that I can make is to remember the words of Martin Luther King, Jr. - "Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love."

3) Different Personalities Have Different Rules

Imo, this is one of the biggest sources of conflict in our lives, especially on this BB. I shared my ideas on this subject over 2 years ago and I feel that it is time to share once again. One of the many things that I have studied to help me understand how to get our message of raw food and fasting out to the masses has been a personality test that is based on quantum physics and this test has been one of the best tools that I have learned.

As this test points out, not everyone perceives reality the same as everyone else. In fact, different personalities have different rules, they think differently, they go from point A to point B differently, what's important to one personality may not be important to another personality, and many times most personalities are totally oblivious to the other personalities. Once again, this is one of the biggest sources of conflict that we see here on this site as well as in real life.

Basically this test is a way of keeping tract of our choices in life under three different circumstances. We can either Act, Talk, Think or Analyze in all sorts of combinations, and these are the four main personality traits, but usually two traits will dominate in each of the three different circumstances, which gives a total of six different personality modes. For a quick overview, one group acts and does things quickly, another group talks and does things friendly, another group thinks and does things creatively, and the last group analyzes and does things carefully.

Once again, two traits usually dominate in each of the three different circumstances, which creates six different personality modes. If one acts and talks, they are an extrovert. If one thinks and analyzes, they are an introvert. If one acts and analyzes, they are convergents. If one talks and thinks, they are divergents. And finally, if one acts and thinks, they are an individualist, and if one talks and analyzes, they are a conformist.

There are actually 12 characteristics in each of the 4 main personality traits, so some people have strong traits while others have only moderate traits. In addition to these six main personality modes, there also twelve secondary traits that are based on whether you have one of the four main traits in all three circumstances. For example, if you have the trait that thinks in all three circumstances, then you will have these additional traits...Imagination, Conceptualization, and Empathy.

Here is a recap:

Four Color-Coded Prototypes:

Prototype #1 Red
Prototype #2 Yellow
Prototype #3 Blue
Prototype #4 Green

Prototype #1 Act - Does it Quickly
Prototype #2 Talk - Does it Friendly
Prototype #3 Think - Does it Creatively
Prototype #4 Analyze - Does it Carefully

Prototype #1 Asks What and When
Prototype #2 Asks Who and Who Else
Prototype #3 Asks Why and What If
Prototype #4 Asks How and Where

Prototype #1 From the Specific to the Specific
Prototype #2 From the Specific to the General
Prototype #3 From the Specific to the General to the Specific
Prototype #4 From the General to the Specific

Twelve Secondary Traits:

Prototype #1:

Insistence - Adult & Parent
Activeness - Parent & Child
Assertiveness - Adult & Child

Prototype #2:

Sociability - Adult & Parent
Supportiveness - Parent & Child
Adaptability - Adult & Child

Prototype #3:

Conceptuality - Adult & Parent
Empathy - Parent & Child
Imaginativeness - Adult & Child

Prototype #4:

Precision - Adult & Parent
Control-Mindedness - Parent & Child
Predictability - Adult & Child

Three Ego States:

Adult (Ego) - Like To
Parent (Super-Ego) - Ought To
Child (Id) - Need To

Five Ego States:

Adult (Ego) - Like To
Positive Parent (Super-Ego) - Ought To
Positive Child (Id) - Need To
Negative Parent (Super-Ego) - Ought To
Negative Child (Id) - Need To

How to apply this knowledge:

The top graph or Like To graph, which is our at work behavior, is purely intellectual and is usually developed from ages 10-20. This graph tells us what type of work we will do best at simply because we like doing it, and will also tell us how we would manage others.

The middle graph or Ought To graph is developed or conditioned from ages 0-10. This graph is created by the way our Parents or any other authority figure raised us, and it’s now the way we deal with authority figures and the way we want to be managed. Interestingly, 2 out of 3 people tested, according to Nolan and confirmed by the 100+ tests that I have given, are Yellow-Blue or Blue-Yellow or Divergent Personality Types. Most parents tell us what (Red) and how (Green) when we are children, so when we grow up we don’t want to be treated as children anymore. We want more flexibility (Yellow) and more freedom (Blue). This Ought To graph is half emotional and half intellectual.

The bottom graph or Need To graph is purely emotional...it’s what we inherited from our parents. This graph is really who we are and as we age, we spend more time in this graph or personality mode. It's our bottom graph that is our at home behavior.

Remember, the top graph is purely intellectual and since the bottom two graphs have emotions, Nolan, who was the man that came up with this test, shows both Positive and Negative graphs for the bottom two graphs and this is how Nolan comes up with a total of 5 graphs.

Now we go into the negatives. All of these graphs are a lot like changing gears and this is why you want to be sure that your job coincides with your Like To graph so that you have a buffer zone. For example, if you have a Red job and you have Red in your bottom graph, but you don’t have much or any Red in your top two graphs, then you are just one step away from the fourth graph, your -Parent or Negative Ought To and you will have Nonproductive Stress Symptoms.

And now we’re only one step away from the fifth graph, which is the -Child or Negative Need To graph. When Red’s get in their negatives, they have to do something physical, so they usually hit or throw things. Most of your wife beaters are high Red. This explains why a lot of athletes hit their wives. Obviously, there are other considerations besides personality that determine our behavior, e.g. values, environment, diet, etc.. When Yellow’s get in their negatives, they get rebellious and yell. When Blue’s get into their negatives, they play poor me and become withdrawn. And when the Green’s get into their negatives, they play a game called NIGYYSOAB, which stands for Not I Got Ya Ya Son Of a Bitch. Whatever you do, don’t piss off a high Green. They are master chess players and will set you up. :-)

Nolan referred to the top graph as the rational dimension, the middle graph as the socialized system and the bottom graph as the instinctive level. And then according to Freud, the top graph is our Ego, the middle graph is our Superego and the bottom graph is our Id. Nolan correlated these 3 graphs to the 3 different levels of the brain and he also correlated the left and right hemisphere of the brain to Convergence and Divergence, respectively.

Nolan also said that much of the conflict in our society comes from people imposing their rules on others. The problem with this is that different colors, i.e. people, have different rules and most people have no idea what color or personality you are nor do they know your rules, unless they have a similar personality or they have studied this test. As Nolan says, "How a person comes across is not necessarily where he is coming from."

Of course, it doesn't take too long to figure out how to push people's buttons, but then you may or may not understand why they think the way they do. For example, Blues complain to Reds...Why are you not more thoughtful?...while Reds complain to Blues...What are you doing you lazy bum? High Reds without any Blue or Green act quickly without thinking or analyzing. Reds work hard, but Blues work smart. When Reds perceive Blues as not working, Blues are working their hardest.

Reds are high energy people. Their motto is ready, fire, aim. Remember, Reds are physically active...if they get in their negatives, they have to do something physical, for some that means they hit and for others they may throw or slam things, etc.. It is the bottom two graphs that have emotions and have the potential for Negative behavior.

Using a Car Analogy: Reds are the motor, i.e. physical energy. Yellows are the lubricants to make sure everything goes smoothly. Blues are the steering wheel to guide us in the right direction, i.e. mental energy. And finally Greens are the brakes to give us control.

Nolan said that 80% of the people who took this test first married their opposites and 80% of second marriages married similar personalities. Nolan said, "In an interesting way, Reds and Blues, which are opposites, attract and then repel; while Yellows and Greens, which are also opposites, go through the reverse process. They repel and then attract. So for the system to work, a third color is always needed as a facilitator while the fourth color becomes antagonistic." Of course, personality is just one of the many things that we look for in a mate.

Once again, opposites attract, especially reds and blues. Reds need that mental energy and blues need that physical energy. What initially attracted you will eventually drive you crazy, especially if you don't know where they are coming from. This doesn't mean that you have to find someone just like you. For example, someone might be very low Green and may be attracted to someone with Green because they need that security. As long as they understand this, then they wouldn't get so annoyed at the Green's rules and stubbornness. If you want that security, you have to pay a price.

Companies that use Nolan's service end up with these personality profiles displayed on everybody's desks so that when you walk into someone's office, you'll know how to push the right buttons. If someone is high Yellow, you say we need your help...if high Blue, we need your ideas...if high Red, we need it done in a hurry...if high Green, we need it done right...etc.

The problem that many of us have is that we tend to take things too personally, and we don't realize that others have different rules and maybe they don't know our rules. Those who analyze, for example, are perfectionist and may seem to others as critical, because they are looking for what is wrong so that they will be perfect. These personalities are also very skeptical and can be very stubborn, if they get into their negatives. The point is that there is no such thing as a good or bad personality and all personalities have there strengths and weaknesses. And aren't we glad that there are different personalities...this would be a very boring world if we were all alike.

Anyway, I've been wanting to share this information with y’all for some time now and I hope that this will help avoid some of the [otherwise] inevitable conflicts in the future.

Peace and Love.......John

PS I realize that most people have a pretty good idea of their own personality by their mid twenties, however almost no one ever understands those personalities that are different from their own. Perhaps the best way to explain this is to tell y'all the story of the six blind men of India.

Six wise men of India
An elephant did find
And carefully they felt its shape
For all of them were blind.
The first he felt toward the tusk,
'It does to me appear,
This marvel of an elephant
Is very like a spear!'
The second sensed the creature's side
Extended flat and tall,
'Ahah!' he cried and did conclude,
'This animal's a wall.'
The third had reached toward a leg
and said, 'It's clear to me
What we should all have instead
This creature's like a tree.'
The fourth had come upon the trunk
Which he did seize and shake
Quote he, 'T his so-called elephant
Is really just a snake!'
The fifth had felt the creature's ear
And fingers o'er it ran,
"I have the answer, never, fear,
The creature's like a fan!'
The sixth had come upon the tail
As blindly he did grasp,
'Let my conviction now prevail
This creature's like a rope
And so these six men of missing sight
Each argued loud and long
Through each was partly right
They all were in the wrong

Just like these 6 blind men, there are six different personality modes. And since there are only 3 different circumstances, that means at the most we may be able to relate to 3 of the 6 personalities. So you may very well know that you are a snake and a rope and a spear, but you have no idea how a wall or a fan or a tree perceives the world, so to speak.

Peace and Love..........John
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fresh Wrote:
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> Overactive adrenal glands usually produce too much
> cortisol and possibly other adrenal hormones (i.e.
> epinephrine, aldosterone). Since cortisol plays a
> role in elevating blood sugar, this is often
> accompanied by an increased blood sugar level.
> Over time, this might end up leading to conditions
> like insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome.
>
> Underactive adrenal glands, on the other hand,
> produce inadequate amounts of hormones, especially
> cortisol, to maintain homeostasis in the body. A
> common clinical problem with underactive adrenal
> glands is hypoglycemic symptoms due to
> fluctuations in blood sugar. Normal, healthy
> bodies release cortisol to help liberate glucose
> to maintain the functions of our brain, organs and
> cells when blood sugar levels decline between
> meals, or overnight during sleep. When cortisol is
> unavailable, glucose levels get too low. The
> adrenal glands release epinephrine (aka
> adrenaline) as their back-up plan. This causes the
> lightheadedness, shakiness and irritability that
> people with low blood sugar experience, and is why
> people with low blood sugar commonly wake up
> during the night.
>
>
> Testing adrenal gland function
> TRY THIS AT HOME!
> Here’s one relatively easy test to do if you
> have a blood pressure monitor. It’s called the
> orthostatic hypotension test. After lying down for
> approximately 5 minutes, take your blood pressure
> and make note of the systolic pressure (the top
> number). Then stand up and take your blood
> pressure again.
> If your systolic pressure remained the same or if
> it decreased, there is a chance you do not have
> optimal adrenal medulla function, or epinephrine
> secretion. When we stand, epinephrine is normally
> secreted to increase our blood pressure to help
> prevent gravity from pulling blood away from our
> brain. If your blood pressure drops, it might mean
> that epinephrine isn’t there to do its job.
> SYSTOLIC CHANGE POSSIBLE FINDING
> Increases 6-10 mm/Hg Healthy adrenal function
> Does not change Fair adrenal function
> Drops 1-10 mm/Hg Poor adrenal function
> Drops more than 10 mm/Hg Adrenal exhaustion
>
> Another at-home test you can do is called the
> paradoxical pupillary reflex. Standing in front of
> a mirror in a dark room, take a flashlight and
> shine the light into one eye at a 45 degree angle
> from the side. Watch your pupil.
> When in the dark, your pupil should be dilated
> (open). When you shine the light it should
> constrict. The duration of constriction can
> indicate adrenal function, though there are other
> causes for a positive finding on this test. Wait
> 30 seconds in the dark before repeating with the
> other eye. (If you get bored while waiting, chew
> some wintergreen Lifesavers.)
> PUPIL CONSTRICTION POSSIBLE FINDING
> Stays constricted for at least 20 seconds Healthy
> adrenal function
> Fasciculates (pulses) after 10 seconds Fair
> adrenal function
> Fasciculates (pulses) in 5-10 seconds Poor adrenal
> function
> Immediate pulsation and dilation Adrenal
> exhaustion

Thank you fresh. I will experiment with this. I tested adrenals a couple of years ago and results were fine, but your suggestions sound like fun.

"NO, you are NOT a Divergent Thinker, otherwise, you would be able to Connect the Dots"

^^ THIS STATEMENT IS CONVERGENT THINKING ^^

You still didn't answer my question about the quote you posted.


"I already knew you were a Convergent Thinker ever since you started posting."

Okay if you say so.

suncloud Wrote:

>
> Thank you fresh. I will experiment with this. I
> tested adrenals a couple of years ago and results
> were fine, but your suggestions sound like fun.


yes it does... i thought it might explain TSM issues. that or pancreas.

Panchito Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> -----
> > Not likely. Brian talks about his testing about
> > how he sees the excess sugar swirling around
> the
> > cells unable to be utilised. My intuition tells
> me
> > the same. Gabriel Cousens touches on these
> ideas
> > also. Imo fruit is not digestable as people may
> > think because of the high sugar issue.
>
> Sugar is dissolved in water. Sugar is at the
> molecular level (atomic) and beyond visual
> microscopes whereas red blood cells are visible.

I understand live blood cell analysis can see these sugars in the blood stream.



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>
> Can you clarify your last statement please? ("I
> can't get around the fruit issue...can't be
> > solved." )


Meaning the negative effects from higher levels of fruit consumption can't be fixed by employing strategies to overcome it. I've been able to find strategies for ill effects of all types of raw foods, but not for fruit because l think it is a sugar problem. It's easy to deal with lectins, oxalic acid etc, but excess sugar is impossible for me to deal with unless l eat less fruit or eat low sugar fruits.



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> I think one of the key phrases from the study is
> "in the Western hemisphere". I would interpret
> this to refer to the standard western diet.

A very confusing term. I agree.

www.thesproutarian.com

>Warning - this is another long post!
I personally do not read posts that are too long.
To me it means that there is not a central point.

<<<To me it means that there is not a central point.>>>

Hey RP,

There is a central point in that post, however, 1 of the 3 Sources of Conflict cannot be explained in 1 sentence and is the reason why that post was so long.

In fact, one of the reasons why I edited my post was to go back and bold these 3 Sources of Conflict and for your convenience, I'll show you that part of the post and I'll add a few more items in bold so that you don't have to read every word.

...

Sources of Conflict:

1) 93% of All Communication Is Nonverbal
2) Less Than Perfect Comprehensive and Memory Skills
3) Different Personalities Have Different Rules

1) 93% of All Communication Is Nonverbal

...

2) Less Than Perfect Comprehensive and Memory Skills

...

3) Different Personalities Have Different Rules

Imo, this is one of the biggest sources of conflict in our lives, especially on this BB. I shared my ideas on this subject over 2 years ago and I feel that it is time to share once again. One of the many things that I have studied to help me understand how to get our message of raw food and fasting out to the masses has been a personality test that is based on quantum physics and this test has been one of the best tools that I have learned.

As this test points out, not everyone perceives reality the same as everyone else. In fact, different personalities have different rules, they think differently, they go from point A to point B differently, what's important to one personality may not be important to another personality, and many times most personalities are totally oblivious to the other personalities. Once again, this is one of the biggest sources of conflict that we see here on this site as well as in real life.

...


I sincerely hope that this post was not too long for you and if you want to have a better understanding of yourself and others, you might want to read and study that long post, which is a recap from a 600 page book.

So you could either read a 600 page book or read my post or remain Ignorant. The choice is obviously yours. Since I've given this test to hundreds of people, I know that there are certain Personalities who are NOT interested in this type of Information and that's fine with me because this world would really be boring if we all processed Information the same way.

The problem, once again, is that we are not taught and subsequently, do not understand how we are different. If we didn't live in such a SICK Society, this type of Information would be taught to all of us in order to make this world a better place.

You do want this world to be a better place, don't you?

You have a point and I am sure there many in this forum who spend time to read a long post.
And it is not a bad thing a long post, it is actually good.
But for me the forum is for reading a short up to the point message.
When it is too long, it suggests to me that there are many points that are being developed, explained, and I may not have time to read them all.
I usually check the forum for new messages in between tasks at work or at home so I do not have the necessary time to read all of the points.
Like some messages have a link to a video without explaining the content of the video, but at work I cannot watch a video so these types of messages are skipped.
So please do not discontinue your approach, like you did in giving clear explanation and steps to cure cancer. You are a healer and you take time to explain the steps involved, that is a very good thing.

Hey RP,

Thanks for your feedback as I really do understand where you're coming from and I also understand that the definition of failure is to try to please everybody, which, obviously, is never going to happen.

[www.therealtruthabouthealth.com]

wherein clement tells all the PET scan experts how wrong they are.

then he says that ONLY bananas ripen after being picked.

why does anyone listen to this guy



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