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4 years ago
suncloud
Thank you for your responses Rawpracticalist and Tai. I'm so glad we are safe and healthy today!
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4 years ago
suncloud
These are the complete "Temptations of Christ" (Matthew 4, 1-11), which I think are very beautiful, especially as they may pertain to the spiritual potential of a fast: 1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered. 3 And when the tempter came to him, he sai
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4 years ago
suncloud
I don't attend services myself, but I do respect all religions and expecially all churches/temples/mosques that strive to grow the soul and help those in need. I came across this in support of worship at home today. For those who aren't familiar with the "Temptations of Christ", these are believed to have occurred at the end of Jesus's 40 day fast. I don't necessarily agree wi
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quoteriverhousebill river- The causes of China-bashing syndrome? Diverting attention and scrapegoating someone else for their own failures. Exactly. Before China, it was the Obama Administration (for not stocking up enough back in 2015). "China Virus" didn't catch on, so now it's both China and the World Health Organization. Trump doesn't like humanitarian organizations anyway. Re
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4 years ago
suncloud
I don't like it. EVERYBODY messed up with this virus. Definitely including us. All "leaders" in denial. For China, the virus was totally new when it hit. But it wasn't new at all by the time it hit us here. Not too long ago, Trump was saying our 5 cases (or whatever) would soon go down to 0. Just about every governor of every state (Republican and Democrat) waited too long to declare
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4 years ago
suncloud
OK. Not sure this method of logical analysis would always lead to an accurate conclusion, since determination of "clear statement" is subjective, and could easily be influenced by personal bias.
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4 years ago
suncloud
QuoteTai This is frightening: "The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them"
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China. Oh, OK. That was from my first reference. Those same issues are found elsewhere as well, as indicated here: I won't argue though that pollution wouldn't have anything to do with the severity of the d
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh ...I have already stated several times what's causing people to get sick and die I will repeat it here again Underlying disease and were dying anyway. Misdiagnosed then killed by treatment and isolation and fear Pollution and other toxins... And those 3 causes increased so much all of a sudden that morgues all over the world are overwhelmed? Seems like the conditions y
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4 years ago
suncloud
QuoteJennifer Quotesuncloud So, just trying to clarify, you believe all these morgues everywhere are overwhelmed (only just recently) due to the underlying conditions? No, 'everywhere' is not overwhelmed. Only highly populated places, like NYC where the hospitals and if you say the morgues are also. I think Cuomo has some kind of scam going on where he forced Nursing Homes to take coronav
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh Doesn't matter to me I mention it because people make claims already disproven Just the same as someone saying a plane smashed into the pentagon on 911 I would suggest to them to read the evidence against it before continuing stating falehoods How do you know who's read what?
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4 years ago
suncloud
So, just trying to clarify, you believe all these morgues everywhere are overwhelmed (only just recently) due to the underlying conditions?
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4 years ago
suncloud
Good news for the skeptics? Isn't that good news for everyone?
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh Quotesuncloud Quotefresh She made another error Jennifer of course The reference was to WUHAN ... What reference Fresh? Your reference was in wuhan Which reference? I posted several.
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4 years ago
suncloud
Interesting question Jennifer. Here's one definition. I'm sure there are others.
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh She made another error Jennifer of course The reference was to WUHAN ... What reference Fresh?
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4 years ago
suncloud
QuoteJennifer NYC doctor says high ventilator settings damage coronavirus patients’ lungs Some doctors moving away from ventilators for virus patients With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19 Complications of Ventilator Use Ventilator Complications: Lung Damage Ventilator-associated lung injury Mechanical Ventilation: Taking Its Toll on
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4 years ago
suncloud
Quotefresh Suncloud It does not mean anything to say that we can agree to disagree unless we both read the best most accurate information from various sources Not msm. if only one of us reads the information it's not disagreement it's just one person with unrebutted facts and the other has an opinion based on Propaganda it's not a matter of convincing I simply put information ou
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4 years ago
suncloud
QuoteJennifer You made a mistake in the Subject Line of your thread. It should read: "Lung damage from ventilators" Look it up here - Uh no Jennifer. With the scarcity of ventilators, people aren't getting one unless there's already an indication of oxygen deficiency. On the video you cited, the doctor states that COVID 19 patients need ventilators, but they're getting
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4 years ago
suncloud
From Cleveland Clinic Here’s the Damage Coronavirus (COVID-19) Can Do to Your Lungs How the coronavirus causes acute respiratory distress syndrome As the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak continues, we’re learning more about the disease, what it does to the body and the damage it can cause. But not sure you understand yet exactly what the virus can do to you? Although many people
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4 years ago
suncloud
So you say Fresh. I disagree. We can agree to disagree without either of us trying to convince the other. How's that?
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4 years ago
suncloud
So you say Fresh. And I don't remember that from Italy. Perhaps that was your interpretation, when the deaths were considered coronavirus-related. Why do YOU think all these people are dying?
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4 years ago
suncloud
What's the "lie" part? The number of deaths? Maybe go hang out at a New York hosital? Or the cause of death? What do YOU think is causing all these deaths?
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4 years ago
suncloud
It's not rude to ask. And I appreciate the thought. Really. Not sure what kind of evidence you're looking for, but I don't think there's anything I could say that could convince you, and I'd rather not spend the time debating it. I still have a life (so far).
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4 years ago
suncloud
Death is not some kind of lizard joke. Yes, it's true doctors are struggling with how to define a death. Coronavirus has been considered as the absolute cause (due to hypoxia) but also as a contributing condition when the immune system is already compromised from a pre-existing condition such as diabetes or heart disease or from a symptom-related condition exacerbated by the virus, such as em
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4 years ago
suncloud
in your opinion Fresh. "Every"? This is my home. Get it? MY HOME.
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4 years ago
suncloud
Unfortunate addendum today: At least 15 healthcare workers at Maui Memorial Medical Center (largest acute care facility on Maui) have been diagnosed with COVID-19. Could be one reason why Maui's cases have gone up so much faster than cases on the Big Island and Kauai.
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4 years ago
suncloud
Interesting that in China, the virus deniers were the Chinese government initially. This information is included in a post on Tai's thread about the possibility of COVID 19 coming from a lab, but it's a little off-topic there, so here it is again: The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus By Stephanie Hegarty Dr Li posted this picture of himself from a hospita
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4 years ago
suncloud
It appears there's been at least one study that concluded the virus didn't originate in a lab. Published in Nature Medicine. Below are a statement from the researchers and a copy of the actual study (including methodology, etc.) Best approach for any conspiracy theory is to look for evidence from both sides. Some conspiracy theories are true. Some conspiracy theories are not.
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4 years ago
suncloud
QuoteJennifer Quotesuncloud Wow. Seems like a definite possibility. Could also be a possible set-up that a virus was deliberately unleashed by a foreign government in a place where a nearby micro lab could be blamed. Most people probably wouldn't have thought it could spread all the way back to them. I'm open to such possibilities. The one you mention Tai is definitely much easier to b
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