what do you need oil stocks for?

what do you need oil stocks for?

SueZ Wrote:
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> Wow, congrats! Let's make ketogenic mode work for
> us raw vegans!

dangers of ketogenic dietss

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]


Does the Ketogenic Diet Cure Cancer? NOOOO

[www.youtube.com]

Just as a 811er would stock up on fruit when it's on sale. Someone, like me, who is on the Conductivity Diet stocks up on that diet's food items that are on sale. Cold pressed stone ground nut and seed oils are very important on this raw food diet and they are not cheap.

Panchito Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow, congrats! Let's make ketogenic mode work
> for
> > us raw vegans!
>
> dangers of ketogenic dietss
>
> [www.rawfoodsupport.com]
> 3198
>
>
> Does the Ketogenic Diet Cure Cancer? NOOOO
>
> [www.youtube.com]
> ed&v=t0i-AdCm-Mg


Well aren't I lucky. I don't have cancer so I don't have to be interested.

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> Thanks SueZ.
> I'll try some oil if I'm not getting enough
> calories from the sprouted seeds. I'll see how I
> do first without it. I'm hoping I can do without
> it, though it wouldn't hurt to keep some on hand.
> As long as it's truly raw. I'd prefer filtered
> though so there's just the oil. Would be nice if I
> could monitor the blood sugar. What do you use to
> monitor it SueZ?
>
> I won't really know how i'm doing until I get the
> greens up and running daily. Atleast 2 lbs... More
> for juicing.
>
> With seeds, I can get up to maybe 1800 calories
> max. under 60% fat but , maybe it's alright.
>
> I'll still probably try to eat some legumes, but
> not everyday. I'll see how much I can consume
> without tipping off ketosis. If I can do it, I'll
> incorporate them... but I kind of doubt it. We'll
> see. I def. cannot have them everyday because I
> can't have fermented food everyday. Maybe on
> ketosis I dont need to ferment them. We'll see.
> I'll still be fermenting atleast in the beginning
> with the seeds.


Yeah, it's nice to have some oil on hand just in case because a teaspoon here, a teaspoon there can keep you going if you need something immediately.

Here's what I use to monitor my blood sugar. As you can see the kit is very inexpensive. They get you on the strips...

[www.walgreens.com]

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> more on KetoAdaptation:
> [www.ketotic.org]
> t-it-is-and-how-to.html
>
> Quote:
>
>
> Carbohydrate-based fueling is a
> self-perpetuating cycle: it runs out quickly, and
> every time you eat more carbs you delay adaptation
> to fat-burning.
> Fat-based fueling is sustainable, because it
> allows access to a very large store of energy
> without you frequently stopping to refuel. Blood
> sugar is maintained though precise internal
> processes without wild swings. These two together
> create a desirable flow of even, stable energy,
> mood, and alertness.

Thanks for posting this useful article! It's interesting that if you take in too many carbs you get fluid retention while the glycogen replenishes and that once the glucose is dealt with you go back into ketosis. That will serve as a good clue.

I've read that you are pretty much in ketosis when your blood sugar doesn't rise above 75.

I'm thinking I will probably feel safer taking this on if I also have this...

[www.amazon.com]

Thestorm
that ketogenic diet link is funny.
How many years have u been struggling with what to eat

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> Wouldnt just Keto-Stix do the trick?
>
> [www.amazon.com]-
> Count-Box/dp/B0000532GH
>
> it's what I used to use to monitor my ketosis. If
> you're saying that ketostix isn't as accurate as
> the other product you mentoined then I dont know
> about that. Ketostix are a lot more cheaper.

I don't have any personal experience but I've read that the urine is far less telling than the blood is. I'm not in a position where I can take chances of things going bad because of responsibilities.

this is the book you need to wake up of the scam. If you are going on ketogenic diet, it would be a good investment

[www.amazon.com]

learn about ketogenic diets history, failures, dangers, and what they don't tell you from a real Doctor with experience on diets. You lose weight at first with so few calories. But long term, the damage accumulates and your health declines

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> more on KetoAdaptation:
> [www.ketotic.org]
> t-it-is-and-how-to.html
>
> Quote:
>
>
> Carbohydrate-based fueling is a
> self-perpetuating cycle: it runs out quickly, and
> every time you eat more carbs you delay adaptation
> to fat-burning.
> Fat-based fueling is sustainable, because it
> allows access to a very large store of energy
> without you frequently stopping to refuel. Blood
> sugar is maintained though precise internal
> processes without wild swings. These two together
> create a desirable flow of even, stable energy,
> mood, and alertness.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2014 10:30PM by Panchito.

Sure storm, it just seems like youve been having a hard timefor a while. Too much thinking maybe

fresh Wrote:
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> Sure storm, it just seems like youve been having a
> hard timefor a while. Too much thinking maybe


I don't like this post at all. You really have a disgusting attitude which is why I will I am adding you to my scroll on by the trolls list. I've given you way too much benefit of the doubt.

U are reading something into my post..

I was responding to storms statement....getting to the bottom of what is optimal for me.

I will rephrase.. yes I understand what ur saying storm.
it does seem though that youve been searching and struggling
for a long time and posting here. Why not just eat as much raw as you can
And eat what tastes good. Too much thinking and analyzing can paralyze and confuse.

now of course this post will not satisfy sue but maybe a little clearer



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2014 11:22PM by fresh.

fresh wrote:

<<<Sure storm, it just seems like youve been having a hard timefor a while. Too much thinking maybe>>>

Sz wrote:

<<<I don't like this post at all. You really have a disgusting attitude>>>

fresh wrote:

<<<U are reading something into my post..>>>

Hey fresh,

Sz must really be an Internet Shill and is here to attack those of us with Knowledge that is a threat to her Masters as there was NOTHING wrong with your Post to storm. NOT A DAMN THING!!!

Indeed, storm has been struggling and he does seem to over analyze, so you were giving him good advice - it's known as Paralysis by Analysis.

Are you saying that you do not over analyze?

I know I sure in the hell do!!!

That's why I've said to you before that we both think a lot a like.

SueZ Wrote:
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> THeSt0rm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > more on KetoAdaptation:
> >
> [www.ketotic.org]
>
> > t-it-is-and-how-to.html
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> >
> > Carbohydrate-based fueling is a
> > self-perpetuating cycle: it runs out quickly,
> and
> > every time you eat more carbs you delay
> adaptation
> > to fat-burning.
> > Fat-based fueling is sustainable, because
> it
> > allows access to a very large store of energy
> > without you frequently stopping to refuel.
> Blood
> > sugar is maintained though precise internal
> > processes without wild swings. These two
> together
> > create a desirable flow of even, stable energy,
> > mood, and alertness.
>
> Thanks for posting this useful article! It's
> interesting that if you take in too many carbs you
> get fluid retention while the glycogen replenishes
> and that once the glucose is dealt with you go
> back into ketosis. That will serve as a good
> clue.
>
> I've read that you are pretty much in ketosis
> when your blood sugar doesn't rise above 75.
>
> I'm thinking I will probably feel safer taking
> this on if I also have this...
>
> [www.amazon.com]
> rch-alias%3Dhpc&field-keywords=ketosis+monitor&spr
> efix=ketos%2Chpc%2C206&rh=n%3A3760901%2Ck%3Aketosi
> s+monitor


I've been watching this woman's videos and finding them very informative. She's not raw but I can't see any reason not to adapt the diet to raw. She's been in ketosis for 4 years. Amazingly she is 46. She looks more like 30...

[www.youtube.com]

SueZ Wrote:
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> THeSt0rm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > more on KetoAdaptation:
> >
> [www.ketotic.org]
>
> > t-it-is-and-how-to.html
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> >
> > Carbohydrate-based fueling is a
> > self-perpetuating cycle: it runs out quickly,
> and
> > every time you eat more carbs you delay
> adaptation
> > to fat-burning.
> > Fat-based fueling is sustainable, because
> it
> > allows access to a very large store of energy
> > without you frequently stopping to refuel.
> Blood
> > sugar is maintained though precise internal
> > processes without wild swings. These two
> together
> > create a desirable flow of even, stable energy,
> > mood, and alertness.
>
> Thanks for posting this useful article! It's
> interesting that if you take in too many carbs you
> get fluid retention while the glycogen replenishes
> and that once the glucose is dealt with you go
> back into ketosis. That will serve as a good
> clue.
>
> I've read that you are pretty much in ketosis
> when your blood sugar doesn't rise above 75.
>
> I'm thinking I will probably feel safer taking
> this on if I also have this...
>
> [www.amazon.com]
> rch-alias%3Dhpc&field-keywords=ketosis+monitor&spr
> efix=ketos%2Chpc%2C206&rh=n%3A3760901%2Ck%3Aketosi
> s+monitor

After watching more of Stephanie Person's videos I think I'm just going to stick with the equipment I have and just wing the rest.

According to her when you are fully in dietary ketosis the diet is muscle sparing so they don't break down and rebuild as is the process in other muscle building modes. That sounds too good to be true but time will tell. I'm not in full ketosis yet but I'm edging up on it experimentally.

My lipid intake yesterday was 72.3% and this morning my FBS, (fasting blood sugar), was 85.

The 19th my lipid intake was 72.7% and yesterday my FBS was 80 - 5 from my ideal goal to keep it at for health.

Could it be that people who believe fat is bad for blood sugar are not familiar with a high intake of stone ground living oil's effect on blood sugar used in conjunction with a well designed living food diet? Certainly they could have never have tried it for themselves to have such a belief.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2014 08:06PM by SueZ.

SueZ Wrote:
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> > After watching more of Stephanie Person's
> videos I think I'm just going to stick with the
> equipment I have and just wing the rest.
>
> According to her when you are fully in dietary
> ketosis the diet is muscle sparing so they don't
> break down and rebuild as is the process in other
> muscle building modes. That sounds too good to be
> true but time will tell. I'm not in full ketosis
> yet but I'm edging up on it experimentally.
>
> My lipid intake yesterday was 72.3% and this
> morning my FBS, (fasting blood sugar), was 85.
>
> The 19th my lipid intake was 72.7% and
> yesterday my FBS was 80 - 5 from my ideal goal to
> keep it at for health.
>
> Could it be that people who believe fat is bad
> for blood sugar are not familiar with a high
> intake of stone ground living oil's effect on
> blood sugar used in conjunction with a well
> designed living food diet? Certainly they could
> have never have tried it for themselves to have
> such a belief.

I'm still slowly upping my lipid intake. Yesterday it was 76.6%. My morning fasting blood sugar was 88. So far so good!

SueZ,

I would like to see Graham's response to your diet and numbers. want to post it on the vegsource board?

fresh Wrote:
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> SueZ,
>
> I would like to see Graham's response to your diet
> and numbers. want to post it on the vegsource
> board?
No, but you can, lol.

send me sufficient details and i will post it. he's a bit crotchety if not enough details ... there is a small chance that it would be of interest....

Graham will probably give the same bogus response he does to anyone who poses questions regarding a high-fat diet, yet he will never give clear scientific evidence of raw, high-fat plant-based diets being as unhealthy as he claims. If someone like Douglas Graham can call himself a doctor (which he in no way resembles), then Brian Clement is without a doubt a doctor as well. I feel like Graham is like a robot with his answers, he learns something for the first time and then repeats it over and over again, oblivious to new science and discoveries. He just can't accept that his 80/10/10 diet is not even close to optimal.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2014 10:01PM by jtprindl.

I don't care at all what the has been gurus think of my diet. They disappoint and/or bore me. Why would I want to spend any time assembling my data for their scrutiny? I'm just keeping track of stuff and reporting it as I go along. I'm not a go getter raw food guru wanna be. What a horrible existence that would be, IMO - almost as bad as those of the actual raw food gurus most of whom will probably be has been raw food gurus left with a lot of time to contemplate that in their various end times. No thank you. I've got other plans.

I know u dont care, i just would like to see how he would explain 70% fat diet if u have decent numbers and good energy. Would include typical foods, whatever numbers u have for fbg or whatever and how long youve been doing it plus ur experience on hclf

fresh Wrote:
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> I know u dont care, i just would like to see how
> he would explain 70% fat diet if u have decent
> numbers and good energy. Would include typical
> foods, whatever numbers u have for fbg or whatever
> and how long youve been doing it plus ur
> experience on hclf

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember all your stuff already.

No.

You said I could post it! Now youre all crabby about it? Geez louise.

fresh Wrote:
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> You said I could post it! Now youre all crabby
> about it? Geez louise.

I said you could post what I've posted. If you want to post more details dig through my past posts and find them. I'm not going to. I don't want to please a has been guru's need for more details you do. I owe him nothing. His diet sucks and I'm not the only one who's suffered from trying to do 811. Just look at his face he's not wearing well.

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> I heard some people say that "white meat" nuts
> don't have as many antinutrients and therefore
> dont need soaking?

There's a big raw food crusade against unsoaked and unsprouted nuts which I bought into for about ten minutes until I found out it's mostly BS and robbed the nuts of their flavor. That's my two cents on the matter.

The body may also be able to adjust to the antinutrients in nuts over the long-term.

jtprindl Wrote:
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> The body may also be able to adjust to the
> antinutrients in nuts over the long-term.

It doesn't have to adjust, IMO. It knows what to do with so called "antinutrients" and better than parasites do, IMO. That's a hint for you researchers out there.